The de Carterets of St Ouen's Manor

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The de Carterets of St Ouen's Manor


This history of the de Carteret family was written by Peter Bisson [1] and first published in the journal of the Channel Island Family History Society. It contradicts some of the basic information published earlier on the position of the family in Jersey and Normandy in the 11th century onwards.

While we are not suggesting that the writer is wrong, the evidence he puts forward in support of his view of the family's origins and status is no more detailed than that which he dismisses in support of the previously accepted view.

We have added notes where appropriate in the text.

The writer is known to be working on an updated family tree for the early generations of the de Carteret family in Jersey, which is awaited with interest by family historians with links to that family

Among Jersey houses St Ouen's Manor holds a unique place as the ancestral home of the island's most celebrated family.

Huge influence

The de Carterets dominate the history of Jersey to the 17th century, partly, it must be admitted, because that history has largely been written by their sympathisers, but their huge influence on the affairs of the island is beyond question.

By the latest reckoning (which differs slightly from the widely quoted figures given by George Balleine) the family has given us seven Lieut-Governors, 13 Bailiffs, nine Attorneys and Solicitors General, and at least 54 Jurats.

The fief of St Ouen, held from the Crown by homage and knight service, is the premier fief of the island: its tenure by the de Carterets goes back beyond our earliest records and it is still held today by the family's senior descendants in the female line, who in 1859 assumed the name Malet de Carteret by Royal warrant from Queen Victoria.

Generations of younger sons founded cadet branches of the family in different parts of the island, several of which acquired fiefs and manors of their Own, including those of Vinchelez, Trinity and La Hague.

The de Carterets took their name from Carteret on the Cotentin coast, where they once held a fief, but it does not follow that they were settled there before they came to Jersey.

The tradition that they were barons of Normandy, handed down in Payne's Armorial and elsewhere, is not supported by any evidence and was probably invented by 18th-century genealogists to flatter the consequence of the family's grandest scion, the great Whig statesman John Carteret, Earl Granville.

His 12th-century ancestor appears to have owed the service of only one knight for the land that he held from the duke of Normandy, and it is known from later evidence that the Jersey fief of St Ouen accounted for two-thirds of that service, so it appears that the fief at Carteret can not have been a large holding to which the Jersey one was added later.

The reverse is more likely to have been the case. An entry in the Rolls of the Assizes held in Jersey in 1299-1300 shows that the manorial court of St Ouen had certain unusual features suggesting a Scandinavian origin. The Jersey fief may have originated in a seizure of land by a tenth-century Viking settler from whom the medieval de Carterets were descended. [2]

Guy the Fowler

According to tradition, the earliest recorded member of the family is Guy de Cartrai, known as 'Guy the Fowler' (l'Oiseleur) from his skill as a huntsman. He is said to have been seigneur of Carteret at the turn of the first millennium. Whether he was a genuine historical figure is impossible to judge, though there is no reason why he should not have been.

Certainly the family was well established by 1066, when the Jersey-born poet Wace tells us that Onfroi (Humphrey) and Maugier de Carteret fought in the Conqueror's army at Hastings. Wace's authority as to the 'companions of the Conqueror' was at one time dismissed by professional historians as unreliable, but a meticulous analysis by Dr Elisabeth van Houts has now re-established his reputation.[3]

The tradition that Onfroi's son Regnaud followed Godfrey de Bouillon on the First Crusade, and was present at the taking of Jerusalem in 1099, is more doubtful: it appears to rest on Regnaud's inclusion in a supposed list of crusaders which was later shown to be merely a 12th-century Norman armorial.

In 1125 Regnaud made the first of his family's many recorded gifts of land to the abbey of Mont St Michel, the charters for which — collected and transcribed in the Cartulaire des Iles Normandes before the originals were destroyed in the Second World War — give much valuable information about the de Carterets in the next two centuries.

A charter of 1135 shows that Regnaud's son Philippe, "seduced by the counsel of certain wicked men", had tried to recall his father's grant before relenting and crossing over to the abbey with his anylier and his two young brothers to confirm and augment it. This charter also shows that Philippe had a house in Jersey; but it was probably not on the site of the present manor, because the chapel of Ste Marie de Lecq, to the north near Le Creux Baillot, was built on land described as being outside the house.

English connections

One of the most interesting discoveries made in recent years about the medieval de Carterets has been the extent of their connections in England. It has long been known that Maugier de Carteret was rewarded after 1066 with grants of several manors in Somerset, but not that Philippe in the 12th century held an estate in Devon which was apparently many times larger than his combined fief of Carteret and St Ouen.

On Philippe's death in 1178 or '79, this English estate was inherited by his younger son Richard, whose long life was to be spent in the service of the Crown in England. Philippe's elder son, Regnaud II, inherited Carteret and St Ouen, but lost the former when the Channel Islands became separated from continental Normandy in 1204.

In common with other Jersey seigneurs he had to surrender his son and heir to King John as a hostage for his loyalty, the young man being committed to the charge of his uncle Richard who, after some years in the north of England, was now constable of Winchester Castle.

It is usually said that the family never recovered the continental fief after 1204. It is true that they were still making vain attempts to get it back in 1235; but they evidently succeeded in doing so at some time before 1271, for French sources show the king of France in that year taking knight service for the fief from Regnaud II's grandson, the latter insisting that he owed only a third, and not the full service of one knight claimed by the king.

At the beginning of the Hundred Years War, however, the Carteret fief and lands were finally confiscated from Sir Regnaud V de Carteret [4] and in 1348 they were regranted to a Frenchman named Yves Simon.

Jersey's medieval records are overwhelmingly male-oriented and contain practically nothing concerning the many de Carteret daughters who must have married into other families.

From time to time, however, a younger son emerges as more than a name on the page. Sir John de Carteret, brother of Sir Regnaud IV of St Ouen, was Bailiff at the time of the Assizes of 1299 and a strong champion of the rights of the Jersey people. He had married an heiress of the de Vmchelez family at some time before 1274 and they were both still living 50 years later, when they sold her share of the fief of Vinchelez to Nicolas de Chesney for the luxurious, but practical, annuity of a fur cloak each. In the next generation two of Sir John's nephews, Geoffroi and Robert, were priests, Geoffroi becoming Dean of Jersey in 1315.

No Bailiffs in Medieval times

The medieval seigneurs of St Ouen themselves never became Bailiffs: their place in the governance of the island was as Jurats. From at least the early 14th century every seigneur of St Ouen was a Jurat, often replacing his father immediately on succeeding to the fief, and enjoying the privilege (which endures to this day) of becoming automatically the senior Jurat on the bench.

To the historian this is often useful in determining life spans, for a de Carteret who heads the list of Jurats from the moment we first hear of him can be assumed to be the seigneur of St Ouen.

In 1328, when Sir Regnaud V de Carteret inherited the fiefs of St Ouen and Carteret from his father, he was granted a year's delay in which to do homage for St Ouen to Edward III so that the journey to England would not interrupt his guard duty at Gorey Castle. Castle guard was one of the forms in which feudal knights performed their military service.

The seigneur of St Ouen, owing two thirds of a knight's service on his Jersey fief, had to serve in person at the castle in time of war for 'two parts of forty days' accompanied by two esquires, all mounted and fully equipped at his expense. In 1338, when the constable of the castle was killed during a siege by the French, Sir Regnaud de Carteret assumed command in his place until a new constable was appointed in 1340.

The traditional version of the de Carteret pedigree states that Sir Regnaud married a lady named Genette de Guerpil, and died in the spring of 1349. Both these assertions are wrong.

The name 'Genette de Guerpil' is evidently a misreading by some antiquarian unfamiliar with the Norman word deguerpie for widow; and the Regnaud de Carteret who died in 1349 was not the seigneur of St Ouen but a cousin who held lands on the east side of the island, later to escheat to the Crown as the so-called 'Fille de Carteret' forfeiture. Sir Regnaud V of St Ouen was very definitely still living in 1354, when he and his brother Guillaume finally settled the estate of their father who had died 26 years before.

He may even have lived until 1382, but if we identify him with the Sir Regnaud who died in that year he must have been at least 57 when his son was born in 1364 and in his mid-seventies when he died. This of course is quite possible, but it seems more likely that the Regnauds of 1328-54 and 1382 were father and son.

Tradition says that in 1373, when Jersey was raided by a French force under Bertrand du Guesclin, the Regnaud de Carteret of the time and his seven sons were all knighted together by Edward III for their gallant defence of the castle. This is dearly a myth: Regnaud V had been a knight since at least 1338, and our records show no trace of a whole family of de Carteret knights at large in Jersey after 1373.

There could, however, be a grain of truth in the story if Sir Regnaud V and his son, soon to inherit as Regnaud VI, both took part in the action and the son was knighted afterwards.

120 years of Philippes

After 1382 the medieval seigneurs are no longer described in our records as knights, and for the next 120 years they were all called Philippe, which has led in the past to much confusion between them. Philippe IV, who inherited in 1382 and came of age in 1385, had two sons of whom the younger, Regnaud, became seigneur of Longueville, but the elder, Philippe V, died in his father's lifetime, so that on Philippe IV's death in or about 1437 it was his five-year-old grandson, Philippe VI, who inherited St Ouen's Manor.

Philippe V, like most of the seigneurial line at this period, had married an English wife and it is likely that she took her children home to be brought up in England: at all events this was dearly the time when the manor fell into disrepair through the neglect of guardians during the heir's long minority. The usual version of the family history attaches this tradition to the next seigneur, Philippe VII, but this cannot be right as he was already of age when he inherited in 1479.

From 1461 to 1468 Jersey was in French hands, originally as a consequence of the Wars of the Roses in England. Towards the end of the occupation, the French tried to capture Philippe VI as he was fishing at La Mare au Seigneur in the bay and he escaped only by the extraordinary feat of his horse in leaping a sunken road more than twenty feet wide to avoid his pursuers. The effort was too much for the horse, which fell dead beneath him before he got back to the manor, but Philippe ordered it to be given honourable burial in the grounds; a shoulder blade was dug up in 1904 and sits today in a little glass case in the hall of the manor below a painting of a large black horse.

This episode is said to have taken place in 1467, by which time the Yorkist cause seemed to have triumphed in England and Edward IV was on the throne. The following year Vice-Admiral Richard Harliston arrived secretly in Jersey and laid plans with de Carteret to assemble a combined force to march along the north coast by night and encirde Gorey Castle before daybreak. The plan was a complete success and, after a nineteen-week siege, the French garrison surrendered.

Philippe's 21 children

In 1470 Harliston returned to Jersey as Governor, and a few years later his sixteen-year-old daughter Margaret married Philippe VI de Carteret's son and heir, Philippe VII, who appears to have succeeded his father as a Jurat some time before he inherited St Ouen's Manor. He and Margaret had a large family, traditionally twenty sons and a daughter (or, in some versions, nineteen sons and two daughters).

Only nine sons are documented, but from one or other of them all known later de Carterets appear to be descended. No descendants of medieval junior lines can be traced after 1500. The eldest son, Philippe, died young, so that it was the second, Edouard, who inherited the fief of St Ouen.

The order of birth of the others is not certain. Pierre lived at La Caroline next to St Ouen's church and founded the branch of the family d'aupres de l'Eglise, with its sub-branches in St Brelade and St Saviour.

Richard was given the fief of Vinchelez de Haut in 1484 by his childless godmother, Katherine de Vinchelez; after protracted litigation with other claimants he founded the line of de Carterets of Vinchelez de Haut, a cadet branch of which later also acquired Vinchelez de Bas. Other younger sons of this line acquired the fiefs of La Hague in St Peter and La Hougue in Grouville.

Helier, one of the most famous members of the family, was Bailiff at intervals from 1513 until his death in 1561; his illegitimate son Edouard founded a branch of the family in St John. As a young man Helier spent some time in England at the Court of Henry VIII, to which he also introduced Pierre and two more of his brothers, Jean and Guillaume. Two others, Thomas and Jacques, were priests. Their sister, Mabel, married Drouet Lempriere, seigneur of Trinity.

In 1485, after a brief attempt to hold Jersey for the Yorkists following their defeat at Bosworth, Harliston was stripped of his governorship. His Lancastrian successor, Matthew Baker, had little time for the de Carterets and a long feud between him and Philippe VII culminated in Philippe being arrested on a trumped-up charge and imprisoned on bread and water pending a rigged trial by combat, while Margaret was kept under house arrest in St Ouen's Manor.

The story of her dramatic escape to England to plead with King Henry VII for a fair trial for her husband is one that, Balleine says in his Bailiwick ofJersey, Jersey has never let die — a phrase which Joan Stevens in her revised edition of the book has characteristically altered to "Jersey will never let die".

Helier and Sark

Edouard de Carteret, the eldest surviving son of Philippe VII and Margaret, succeeded his father as seigneur of St Ouen about 1502 and died in 1533, when his son Helier, born of a second marriage in his fifties, was only a year old. Helier is best remembered for his recolonisation of the then uninhabited island of Sark, granted to him for the purpose by Elizabeth I in 1565.

He died in 1581, the year after his eldest son Philippe VIII was married to Rachel Poulet, daughter of George Poulet who was at various times Lieut-Governor and Bailiff.

Helier's second son Amice married Catherine Lempriere, daughter and heiress of Guillaume Lempriere of Trinity Manor, and founded the line of the de Carterets of Trinity.

Philippe VIII de Carteret died in 1594, leaving nine children of whom the two eldest boys, Philippe IX and Elie, respectively ten and nine, were already at Oxford. Their grandfather, George Poulet, became guardian to them and their siblings, but by 1602 he was too old to manage the family estates and the eighteen-year-old Philippe returned from Oxford to take charge.

He was still under age when he married Anne, daughter of Sir Francis Dowse of Hampshire. On attaining his majority in 1625 he was sworn in as a Jurat and quickly became a leading figure in island life: he was knighted by James I in 1617, became Bailiff in 1627 and from 1634 was Lieut-Governor as well.

Unless we are so purist as to let the fact that he was born in Sark disqualify him from being a Jerseyman, Sir Philippe IX has a claim to be considered the greatest of all Jerseymen: certainly his life, summarised in Balleine's Biographical Dictionary of Jersey, is part of the fabric of Jersey history.

Major rebuilding of Manor

What has only recently become apparent is that Sir Philippe IX undertook a major rebuilding of St Ouen's Manor. When he inherited it, the medieval hall was probably much as it had been rebuilt by Philippe VI in the 1450s, with its tower on the south side containing a great stone staircase. To the east will have been older service rooms, most of which have disappeared; extending westwards at the other end was a chamber wing, probably added by Philippe VII to accommodate his growing family.

The main entrance was on the north side, where the north tower now stands. Sir Philippe IX turned the house round to give it a grand new frontage to the east, in the nearest that Jersey builders could achieve to the English Jacobean style. The service rooms that probably existed east of the hall were demolished and a new front door inserted in the end of the hall range; the space in front of this was flanked by a pair of tall gabled wings, the south one incorporating part of an existing smaller building adjoining the south tower.

The stone stairs in this tower were removed, having been made redundant by a new timber staircase in a matching tower on the north side of the hall. The sloping ground to the east was banked up to form a terrace, approached from the north end by a fine late Gothic arch of about 1500 moved from elsewhere on the property and updated with shields of the arms of the Poulet and Dowse families.

The long wing of service rooms extending north to what was then the stable yard probably also dates from this time. It was a hugely impressive transformation, which created a house unlike any other in Jersey and must have cost a fortune.

When the Civil War began in 1642, Sir Philippe's instinct was to try to keep Jersey out of the struggle; but there were strong Parliamentarian sympathies in the island as well as mounting opposition to Sir Philippe's autocratic rule. His nephew, George Carteret, was based at St Malo with a fleet of ships, charged with supplying the Royalists in the west of England with munitions from France.

When in January 1643 he called into Jersey to commandeer ammunition from Elizabeth Castle, and Sir Philippe felt unable to resist his nephew as an officer holding the King's commission, neutrality was stretched to breaking point. By the spring Sir Philippe had been forced to withdraw to the safety of the castle; he continued from there to urge moderation, but found himself under siege as the situation hardened.

Sickness broke out in the castle, and on 23 August 1643 he died. His body was embalmed and, in accordance with his dying wishes, not buried in St Ouen's church until after the Royalists had recaptured the islands in the following year.

Charles II

His eldest son, Philippe X, born in 1620, was knighted by the future Charles II when in Jersey as Prince of Wales in 1646 and became Lieut-Bailiff in the following year under his cousin, Sir George Carteret, who left all the Bailiff's work in his hands.

After the island again fell to the Parliamentarians in 1651 he came near to losing his estates, which Parliament declared forfeit in 1645; but he was able to go to London to plead his case, the matter became stalled in procedural delays, and the forfeiture was never effected. He married Anne Dumaresq, daughter of Abraham Dumaresq of Les Augres, and they had two children, a son and a daughter.

The son, Sir Philippe XI, was born in St Ouen's Manor on Christmas Day 1650 and succeeded his father in 1662, two years after Charles II was restored to his throne. On coming of age in 1671 he was created a baronet, indicating the prestige which the de Carterets now enjoyed.

In 1676 he married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Edouard de Carteret of Trinity: she was then a child of twelve, and the marriage contract stipulated that they would not live together until she was fifteen. A man of great wealth and consequence, but apparently well liked, he spent much of his time in England, journeying everywhere both there and in Jersey in a coach drawn by six horses.

His most important legacy in Jersey was a further remodelling of St Ouen's Manor. His grandfather's great embanked terrace had proved insufficient foundation for the south-east wing, which was subsiding. Sir Philippe had the terrace revetted with a new and more massive retaining wall and refronted both wings with larger windows; he also remodelled the interior of the house, creating a large square entrance hall containing a fine Restoration staircase.

Sir Philippe XI died in 1693 and was succeeded by his only son, Sir Charles, whom the King had sponsored at his baptism at Westminster in 1679 and knighted in 1687 at the age of eight.

The office of Bailiff, effectively hereditary in the de Carteret family since the Restoration, was reserved for him when he came of age. But he spent most of his time in England, and his relations with Jersey were troubled. There were complaints that he had no respect for the laws and customs of the island, and that the lieutenants whom he appointed to take his place during his long absences were unfit for office; a man accused of describing him as 'rough as a veal pie' was fined and condemned to ask pardon on his knees, and he angered the tenants of his fief by demanding services from them that they considered unjust.

In 1713 his opponents won a victory against him before the Privy Council, after which he lapsed into illness and died two years later.

According to Payne's Armorial and related sources, Sir Charles never married; Balleine's Biographical Dictionary says that he married Mary de Carteret and had an only son, James, who died before him. At all events he died without issue, and, as Jersey law did not allow real property to be left by will, his estates should have passed to his collateral heirs.

Daughters' division of fief challenged

Sir Philippe IX had had seven sons of whom all but two, Sir Philippe X and Francois, had died childless. The last descendant of Sir Philippe X was now dead; the last male descendant of Francois had died in 1711; and so Sir Charles' heirs were Francois' four surviving daughters, Francoise, Anne, de la Riviere and Elizabeth, who were entitled to divide the fief of St Ouen between them according to the Norman principle that biens nobles are divided in the female line of succession though not the male.

Sir Charles, however, had other ideas. Having obtained letters patent from Queen Anne permitting him to dispose of his estates as he pleased, he made a will drawn up under English law entailing them on the male line of the baronial branch of the family founded by Sir George Carteret, whose father Elie had been the next eldest brother of Sir Philippe IX.

This line was represented in 1715 by Sir George's great-grandson, John Carteret, second Baron Carteret and later Earl Granville, the famous Whig statesman; and so it was he who succeeded Sir Charles as seigneur of St Ouen and Bailiff.

Sir Charles' cousins, after some talk of contesting the will, agreed to let it stand on condition that the estates would revert to them or their heirs if the baronial line failed.

It did fail, but not for 60 years. Lord Carteret lived until 1763, never visiting Jersey but always taking a keen interest in the island's affairs; his debauched and psychopathic son Robert took no interest in Jersey at all beyond pocketing his fees as Bailiff. He died childless in 1776, and the fief of St Ouen reverted to the descendants of the four co-heiresses of 1715.

By now, however, the estate was much reduced in size and value. Sir Charles had died under a heavy load of debt, and trustees had been appointed to act with Lord Carteret in selling as much property as was necessary to pay this off. Their first step had been to sell Sark, but the agent sent to collect the money decamped with it; so a great quantity of lands, rentes and other dependencies of the main fief of St Ouen had had to be sold before the creditors were satisfied.

1780 partition

The partition of what remained was carried out in 1780, when the fief of St Ouen was carved into four 'branches'. The principal branch, with the manor and its demesne lands, went to the senior heiress, Jeanne Le Maistre, née Dumaresq. She was the great-granddaughter and eldest representative of Francoise de Carteret, and it is through this blood line that the Malet de Carterets are today the senior lineal descendants of Sir Philippe IX and his ancestors back to the eleventh century.

The second branch went to Charles Lempriere in right of his wife Elizabeth Corbet, granddaughter of Anne de Carteret; the third to Daniel Messervy, great-grandson of de la Riviere de Carteret; and the fourth to George Bandinel, grandson of Elizabeth de Carteret.

All three junior branches were later sold, but the principal branch never was. Following Jeanne Le Maistre's death in 1806 it was inherited successively by her two surviving sons, Charles, who died childless in 1845, and Philippe, who died in 1848. Philippe and his wife Rachel d'Auvergne had two daughters of whom the elder, Jane Anne, married John Mallet (son of Jean Mallet, Rector of Grouville); but she had died in her father's lifetime, and so St Ouen's Manor was inherited by her elder son John Paignton Mallet, named after the town of Paignton in Devon where his parents were living when he was born.

John Paignton Mallet died in 1856, still under age, while on active service in the Crimea, and the manor passed to his brother, Edward Charles Mallet, who came of age in 1859.

Edward Charles Mallet was a man of energy and drive who was strongly imbued with the romantic Victorian feeling for history. Immediately on coming of age he obtained licence from the Queen to adopt the name and arms of de Carteret; a few years later, with two of his Mallet uncles, he obtained a further patent authorizing them to change the spelling of the name from Mallet to Malet.

In his new persona as Colonel Malet de Carteret he became one of the leading Jerseymen of his day. As Deputy of St Ouen from 1866 and Jurat from 1886, he exercised great influence in the States because, in that deferential age, most of the country members followed his lead. He was Lieutenant-Bailiff from 1889 to 1901, and was also a prominent Freemason, holding office as Provincial Grand Master of Jersey for 45 years from 1869.

In the previous year he had seized the opportunity to reunite the four branches of the divided fief of St Ouen by buying the three junior ones from the bankrupt estate of Francois Godfray, who had bought them up at different times for motives that are not clear.

St Ouen's Manor, meanwhile, had fallen into a sad state of decline since 1715. Lord Carteret had had most of its historic contents shipped to England, including, it is believed, the family archives, which in consequence are now lost.

Military barracks and farm

In 1795 Jeanne Le Maistre was letting the house as a military barracks. In the early 19th century it was a farm, the remains of its medieval defences decayed and overgrown and many of the outbuildings derelict.

Colonel Malet de Carteret was determined to change all this. In 1861 he had married Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of the wealthy Abraham Poingdestre of St John, and it is no secret that it was her money that enabled him to embark in 1885 on the grand restoration project that was to leave St Ouen's Manor as it is today.

He managed, not without difficulty, to get the main road diverted so that the old road could become a private avenue, as it had apparently been before it was absorbed into General Don's military road in 1812. Work on the manor itself began with the lodge and the garden terracing and continued, using a different architect, with the house.

The result, with its turrets, oriels and mock crenellations, is attractive but largely spurious, and the creation of the great new entrance court on the north side involved sweeping away some old buildings that ought to have been preserved. Internally the transformation was even more drastic, with Sir Philippe XI's grand staircase rearranged in a magnificent galleried hall that looks, as Balleine observed, like something out of one of Sir Walter Scott's novels.

Yet the restoration is technically clever as a conversion of a jumble of old buildings to meet the complex (and, of course, now obsolete) working requirements of a Victorian country house, and after more than a century it has acquired a validity of its own as part of the manor's history.

Strangely, Sir George Carteret was never seigneur of St Ouen and the manor was never visited by either of the Lords Carteret who were, it is this line whose presence is most visible in the house today. Portraits of Sir George and his wife by Sir Peter Lely hang on the walls, along with three generations of their descendants.

There is also the letter from Charles II to Sir George in 1649 to which he added a postscript in his own hand, recording his appreciation of the family's loyalty to him and his father and promising that it would not be forgotten when he regained the Crown.

Since Colonel Malet de Carteret's death in 1914 the manor has experienced further vicissitudes, and there are those who disparage it because the seigneurs of St Ouen are no longer de Carterets by paternal descent. But what matters is the fact that they represent the senior line: today's patrilineal de Carterets represent lines that were already too remote from the main stem to be included in Sir Charles de Carteret's entailing plans in 1714.

St Ouen's Manor is in good hands, ably maintained in an age when it is not at all easy to do so, and remains a worthy memorial to the greatness of Jersey's most eminent family.

Notes and references

  1. Not a relation of Jerripedia editor Mike Bisson
  2. The writer's dismissal in two paragraphs of the prevailing view that the de Carterets were established land owners in Normandy before arriving in Jersey, appears to be based on as tenuous evidence as he dismisses for the alternative view. The writer fails to elaborate on the evidence which he says suggests contradicts the established view of the family history. What were the unusual features of the manorial court suggesting a Scandinavian origin? If it was a Viking settler who seized land in Jersey, where did the family name de Carteret originate? Although evidence to support the traditional view of the family's holdings may be somewhat sparse, we suggest that the writer has advanced nothing of substance to support his alternative view - Editor
  3. If the writer accepts that the family was well-established by 1066, why does he maintain that the Jersey residency came first? It has not previously been suggested that the family was present in Jersey until some considerable time later. Wace, although born in Jersey, moved to Caen in Normandy as a child and probably did not return. His knowledge of the de Carterets would, therefore, be relate to the Normandy family. Those listed and recognised as being part of the Conqueror's army were not common soldiers, but members of important Normandy families, further confirmation that the de Carterets were established in their 'home town' long before moving to Jersey - Editor
  4. The writer uses 'regnal numbers' to distinguish between de Carterets with the same forename. This is dangerous because the exact lineage of de Carterets in the early Jersey generations remains open to doubt, and there may have been one more, or one fewer, Regnauds than suggested in various versions of the family tree
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